Comments on: City Alerts Parents To College Students’ Behavior http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014 Oswego County Today Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:00:58 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: An Oswegonian http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014&cpage=1#comment-16759 An Oswegonian Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:41:23 +0000 http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014#comment-16759 The City boasts that it does this, when, in actuality it rarely happens. First there was a program where the Police Chief signed the letters, now they say the Mayor is signing the letters... A token few may get sent out with big fanfare, but the program will be all but abandoned in short order. Many of the students brought up on charges don't get viably prosecuted either, all of which is amazing to me. The noise alone when the bars close is intolerable (and happening at 2:00 am, or after), the vandalism, public urination, bottles smashed all over public streets, sidewalks & parks, the scuffles, fights and public displays of all kinds of bad behavior, the huge numbers of drunk drivers, not to mention staggering and puking walkers all come together with an Oswego public long tired of these excesses with little or no containment on the part of the city to create a very dangerous situation on a nearly daily basis. The City needs to actually enact this program (sending letters to the parents, the ones footing the bill for these so-called adult students), crack down with greater enforcement (in the case of noise, any kind of enforcement, there is none), more arrests, those arrests need to be fully prosecuted resulting in heavy fines and public service to help compensate the city for the costs associated with this kind of law breaking. And the college's sham program needs beefing up as well, judicial sanctions from a student body, a bare slap on the wrist in most cases, the City and the college seem to conspire together to sweep all of this under the rug. Why aren't all the underage drinkers at parties rounded up and charged with their crimes, the older ones charged with providing the alcohol, why is there no enforcement of the noise ordinance, little enforcement of drunk & disorderly? There are college towns who fine, enforce, and don't put up with this kind of behavior. The City boasts that it does this, when, in actuality it rarely happens. First there was a program where the Police Chief signed the letters, now they say the Mayor is signing the letters… A token few may get sent out with big fanfare, but the program will be all but abandoned in short order.
Many of the students brought up on charges don’t get viably prosecuted either, all of which is amazing to me.
The noise alone when the bars close is intolerable (and happening at 2:00 am, or after), the vandalism, public urination, bottles smashed all over public streets, sidewalks & parks, the scuffles, fights and public displays of all kinds of bad behavior, the huge numbers of drunk drivers, not to mention staggering and puking walkers all come together with an Oswego public long tired of these excesses with little or no containment on the part of the city to create a very dangerous situation on a nearly daily basis.
The City needs to actually enact this program (sending letters to the parents, the ones footing the bill for these so-called adult students), crack down with greater enforcement (in the case of noise, any kind of enforcement, there is none), more arrests, those arrests need to be fully prosecuted resulting in heavy fines and public service to help compensate the city for the costs associated with this kind of law breaking.
And the college’s sham program needs beefing up as well, judicial sanctions from a student body, a bare slap on the wrist in most cases, the City and the college seem to conspire together to sweep all of this under the rug.
Why aren’t all the underage drinkers at parties rounded up and charged with their crimes, the older ones charged with providing the alcohol, why is there no enforcement of the noise ordinance, little enforcement of drunk & disorderly?
There are college towns who fine, enforce, and don’t put up with this kind of behavior.

]]> By: Ontario Street http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014&cpage=1#comment-16722 Ontario Street Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:26:44 +0000 http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014#comment-16722 Well, lets put it this way, you college students that walk down our street all hours of the night holding your drink in hand, yelling, screaming, not caring if you wake anyone. These are peoples homes, where the eldery and children live not to mention those people who work for a living. You have your house partys that expand all over the neighborhood, stealing furniture, kidstoys, and little ones pumpkins, peoples belongings. You go up on peoples porches and take what ever is not nailed down. Your also taking a pee where ever you want, walking in peoples yards, jumping of roofs, swearing so loud. You have no cares, how do you like someone interfearing with your life. Smartin up. Cause us Oswego people have had enough of your behavior, and cops will be called more often. I feel we let you slide way to often, hoping it will just stop or go away, but you keep doing horrible things. Maybe if you will stop messing with the residents lives and then you wouldn't get in trouble. Stay away from Ontario Steet. Well, lets put it this way, you college students that walk down our street all hours of the night holding your drink in hand, yelling, screaming, not caring if you wake anyone. These are peoples homes, where the eldery and children live not to mention those people who work for a living. You have your house partys that expand all over the neighborhood, stealing furniture, kidstoys, and little ones pumpkins, peoples belongings. You go up on peoples porches and take what ever is not nailed down. Your also taking a pee where ever you want, walking in peoples yards, jumping of roofs, swearing so loud. You have no cares, how do you like someone interfearing with your life. Smartin up. Cause us Oswego people have had enough of your behavior, and cops will be called more often. I feel we let you slide way to often, hoping it will just stop or go away, but you keep doing horrible things. Maybe if you will stop messing with the residents lives and then you wouldn’t get in trouble. Stay away from Ontario Steet.

]]> By: SUNY Alumni http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014&cpage=1#comment-16591 SUNY Alumni Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:13:39 +0000 http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014#comment-16591 Neither SUNY or the city want students to leave. The college is building new dorms to accommodate students; you have a new student center with a new ice rink. Two new academic majors also, correct? Does that sound like a city that wants students to leave? However, the city would like to be respected by those students who do attend university here; as would the residents who live here year round. Urinating in public, disorderly conduct and drunken brawls are not adult behaviors. Neither SUNY or the city want students to leave. The college is building new dorms to accommodate students; you have a new student center with a new ice rink. Two new academic majors also, correct? Does that sound like a city that wants students to leave?
However, the city would like to be respected by those students who do attend university here; as would the residents who live here year round. Urinating in public, disorderly conduct and drunken brawls are not adult behaviors.

]]> By: Karen Marsden http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014&cpage=1#comment-16513 Karen Marsden Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:46:24 +0000 http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014#comment-16513 I find the student's comment "If you want [them] to act like adults, treat [them] like adults" to be very entertaining and indicative of their self-centeredness and youth. How about this, kids: "If you want to be treated like adults, act like adults." I find the student’s comment “If you want [them] to act like adults, treat [them] like adults” to be very entertaining and indicative of their self-centeredness and youth.

How about this, kids: “If you want to be treated like adults, act like adults.”

]]> By: A taxpayer http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014&cpage=1#comment-16511 A taxpayer Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:18:58 +0000 http://oswegocountytoday.com/?p=25014#comment-16511 Well if you guys would behave and mind the police -- your parents wouldn't have to be involved. Lets go to your town and let me go pee all over the place and cause all sorts of drunken behavior, stealing items from yards as well as damaging them. GROW UP -- when you get to be my age you will see how stupid it actually looks. Well if you guys would behave and mind the police — your parents wouldn’t have to be involved. Lets go to your town and let me go pee all over the place and cause all sorts of drunken behavior, stealing items from yards as well as damaging them. GROW UP — when you get to be my age you will see how stupid it actually looks.

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