Fulton Budget Passes With 800-Pound Gorilla

Fulton Republican Committee Chairman Mark Aldasch implores councilors to table the budget in consideration of the '800-pound gorilla' in the room.

FULTON, NY – After a sometimes contentious but overwhelmingly positive public hearing where taxpayers covered nearly every line of the mayor’s 2015 proposed budget, councilors unanimously passed the $15.7 million spending plan.

Despite the mixed bag of praise and criticism, each speaker during the hour and twenty minute exchange between speakers and city’s elected officials lauded the mayor and councilors for holding the line on taxes but noted there is more work to be done.

Fulton's Bob Weston addressed the council Tuesday.
Fulton’s Bob Weston addressed the council Tuesday.

Fulton resident and former city councilor Bob Weston was first to speak and as a way to provide some perspective, compared the county’s two cities, Oswego and Fulton.

“Oswego’s population is 18,142; ours is 11,655,” Weston said. “They have 55% more people. Their budget is $43.3 million; ours is $15.7 million – there is almost three times as much of a budget that they have to work with. So, obviously the revenue is coming into Oswego far greater than Fulton.”

He noted that the city of Oswego has three times the manpower. “We have 108. I think we’re doing as much as we can with the least amount of people. I think that’s a credit to everybody who’s working on it,” the former councilor said.

During previous public sessions of regular council meetings, Planning Board Commission member, and Fulton resident Dennis Merlino expressed concern about the city’s Parks and Recreation budget, and asked councilors and the mayor during their budgeting process to keep those lines of spending intact, for the good of the community.

“I see now that it just wasn’t practical or possible, but I am thrilled with the budget you have come up with – no tax increase,” Merlino said. “It’s up to the people of Fulton now to work as hard as the council, the mayor and every employee in the city are working. I would ask the people to step up and do their part. It’s time for each person to volunteer to do something that will help the city.”

Fulton lawyer Salvatore Lanza talks with Bob Weston and Frank Castiglia prior to Tuesday's budget hearing.
Fulton lawyer Salvatore Lanza talks with Bob Weston and Frank Castiglia prior to Tuesday’s budget hearing.

Oswego County Legislator Frank Castiglia said this is a good budget. “When ever you have a zero percent tax increase it’s a good budget,” he said.

However, Castiglia noted that there were some areas where the mayor could have trimmed expenses – sometimes by only a hundred dollars or so, and in the case of the city issued cell phones, by thousands.

“I’m talking about eliminating cell phones. We don’t have any cell phone charges for the police at all,” he said. “The rest of them … you could reduce some of them. The total of all of them would come down to $5,395.”

The legislator added that with city employee’s making the money they make, they can afford their own cell phones.

The other recommendation Castiglia made was the closure of the west side fire station.

“Mr. Mayor what is the cost we have to maintain the west side fire station?” Castiglia asked.

Dennis Merlino, Planning Board Commission member, speaks to the council regarding the budget while Acting Fire Chief Paul Foster studies the document.
Dennis Merlino, Planning Board Commission member, speaks to the council regarding the budget while Acting Fire Chief Paul Foster studies the document.

Mayor Ron Woodward responded that the regular heating, maintenance and cleaning costs amounted to approximately $8,000 to $10,000 per year.

With that, Castiglia asked that the council consider closing the station, saving taxpayers that money, and then sell the building to a private entity to get it back on the tax rolls.

There was a brief discussion about the fire department’s newest engine – Engine 1 – housed at the west side. Castiglia said the rumor is that it’s there because it’s the only building the engine fits inside. “Is that fact or fiction?” Castiglia asked.

Acting Fire Chief Paul Foster was on hand, and responded the legislator’s concern. “That’s fiction,” he said.

The mayor explained that when the fire engine was ordered it was specified at a height that could be accommodated by the city’s fire houses. When the engine arrived it did not fit at the east side but ultimately the company who built the engine paid to have a bigger door installed at the east side fire station.

Mayor Ron Woodward, and City Clerk Dan O'Brien, and Councilors Tom Kenyon, Dan Knopp and Eric Raponi hear local businessman Sal Lanza's views on the proposed 2015 budget.
Mayor Ron Woodward, and City Clerk Dan O’Brien, and Councilors Tom Kenyon, Dan Knopp and Eric Raponi hear local businessman Sal Lanza’s views on the proposed 2015 budget.

In response to Castiglia’s continued pressure to revamp the city’s fire department, Councilor Dan Knopp asked the county representative to appeal to his cohorts in the county legislature to formulate a county-wide fire district. “We need that for the whole county, not just the city,” Knopp said.

“That’s up to the majority caucus up there,” Castiglia responded.

Next to speak was local attorney Sal Lanza, who has owned his business in Fulton for almost 20 years. He noted his parents also ran a bakery business in Fulton for more than 25 years. “I’ve looked at the budget and I must commend all of you for the work that you’ve done. Obviously you’ve worked very hard on the budget,” Lanza said.

But as the city’s businesses have dwindled over the years, so has its revenue and resources – and the associated downsizing and cuts came with an equal amount of public frustration and “turmoil over the cuts and where the money was going to go,” Lanza said.

“Let me say this to you, I remember when Fulton was teeming with many factories … we lost population,” the attorney said. “I remember in the 1980s we had five secretaries in my office there was so much business coming in. … Then over the years I had to make layoffs. … Now I have two.”

“Here’s my two-cents,” he said. “We have 35 police officers, including the chief. … Let me ask you, do we need 35 officers?”

Lanza asked the mayor and councilors to consider putting two police cars on the east side and two cars on the west side, with minimal administrative staffing – an investigator and deputy investigator during the day at the municipal building.

“I think we can get by in Fulton with 24 or 25 police officers,” Lanza said. “Do you need 35? Right now we’re in financial distress.”

Lanza added that he did not want to see anyone lose their job, and making the personnel cuts in his own office from five to two was hurtful, but it was necessary for the continued survival of his business – and the city should make the same kind of hard choices.

With respect to the fire department, Lanza said he is not in favor of closing the west side fire station, noting the city’s two west-side schools, numerous businesses, and the potential need to assist Granby in mutual aid.

The local businessman also raised the concern that due to tax exemptions and agreements, only half of the property in the city of Fulton is taxed.

Fulton Republican Committee Chairman Mark Aldasch implores councilors to table the budget in consideration of the '800-pound gorilla' in the room.
Fulton Republican Committee Chairman Mark Aldasch implores councilors to table the budget in consideration of the ‘800-pound gorilla’ in the room.

Mark Aldasch, Fulton Republican Committee chairman at first thanked councilors for holding the line on taxes, but added that the city remains number one in New York State in overall taxes. “That’s school district and county, but we’re number one,” he said.

According to SeeThroughNY, in 2012 at $51.23 per $1,000 of assessed value the city of Fulton ranked the 4th city in the state, behind Gloversville – $52.40, Binghamton – $51.97 and Little Falls – $51.59.

By comparison of all municipalities – city, town and village – the village of Phoenix – the next highest taxed municipality in the county at $47.55 ranked 77th; Oneida – Aldasch’s proclaimed ‘sister city’, at $33.59, ranked 1109th; and the city of Oswego, at $37.41, ranked 537th.

Lamenting the lack of jobs within the community, and an inability to sell his home, Aldasch said he had no choice but to get involved in city politics. “I wanted out of here,” he said. “This town is dying and I blame every single one of you and all past councilors and mayors for the problem we’re in right now.”

“I can’t get out of here. I’m stuck. I don’t want to stay here, I want to leave. It’s dying but nobody is doing anything about it and by nobody I mean you guys,” Aldasch said.

The Fulton resident went on to admonish the council for not addressing the “800-pound gorilla in the room.”

“The 800-pound gorilla is public safety,” Aldasch said. “We have the highest taxes and there’s no jobs here. And no job is going to come here with the taxes being the way they are.”

Through the course of sometimes heated discussion, Aldasch recommended councilors table the budget vote and appeal to the city of Oneida for their city contracts with police and fire unions as a guide to slashing the public safety budget lines.

“Their police and fire departments haven’t changed since the 1960s,” he said. “They have the same number of police officers and firefighters as they did then. … Table this budget and take a field trip to our sister city in Oneida to see how they do things.”

Aldasch said the city should consider taking up a public referendum to dissolve the police department. “You have to make the tough decisions,” he said. “I’m paying taxes for the sheriff’s department in my county taxes. You’re getting multiple services here.”

Oswego County Today asked Aldasch after the meeting if a dissolution of the city police force with county sheriff’s taking over would result in a higher county tax rate for police services.

He said no, he did not believe there would be an increase for the city of Fulton taxpayers county tax burden, and in the maneuver Fulton taxpayers stood to gain the benefit of a $3 million budget cut.

Councilors did not table the budget, but they did agreed to look at the city of Oneida’s methods and contracts.

The discussion inflamed again when Aldasch continued to press his request for councilors to table the budget, visit Oneida and slash the public safety lines before passing the budget.

“Mark, do you think we just started this budget?” Councilor Tom Kenyon asked.

Knopp and Woodward reminded Aldasch that the union contract and arbitration process was where all of the public safety negotiation would have to take place, and those contracts would not be settled before the end of 2014.

“We operate in a nation of laws,” Woodward said, “and the Taylor Law is one of them.”

Knopp noted that in the interest of good faith negotiation, the city was beholden to include a budget line to support the current contract.

With discussion reaching a stalling point, the mayor asked for further comment, and hearing none, thanked those present for their participation in the public hearing.

The passed budget includes $15.7 million in spending, with a $6,464,816 real property tax levy – which is $28,185 less than the tax levy for 2014.

Despite the saving, due in part, to a decrease in the overall city’s assessed value, the property tax rate per $1,000 of assessed value will remain the same $19.662 as it was in 2014.


  1. Fulton is the canary in the coal mine, they’re a little farther on the edge than many other upstate cities ready to go over the cliff. Unfortunately I think the decision of the Governor and state to ban Fracking sealed the death sentence of many of the upstate cities.
    These problems started with the loss of manufacturing and other jobs many years ago and the failure of city leaders to recognize what was coming, I personally blame politicians like the Mayor that have been around much to long and didn’t start trimming and cutting expenses years ago and negotiated union contracts and pension not sustainable. Comparing us to Oswego who just raised their taxes 75%, is a cop out they also have a population of new college students that Fulton doesn’t have for additional economic revenues purposes.
    Aldasch is on the right track, new leadership and drastic cutting (not just a cell phone bill) is needed or let the bankruptcy begin with the city of Fulton leading the way.
    It’s too bad Fulton was once a beautiful city by the river built by our grandparents and parent’s blood sweat, tears and fiscal responsiblity.

  2. Please stop looking to the Towns to bail you out. If you can’t afford a paid Fire Dept. go with a volunteer department. Fulton has a history of grabbing what it’s neighbors have. I guess it was karma when the Kmart plaza became tax exempt.

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