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September 22, 2018

Oswego Council Looks To Quiet River Sirens


OSWEGO, NY – In the fall of 2011, Brookfield Renewable Power implemented enhanced safety tools and warnings for anglers who recreate on or near the company’s Varick Hydropower Dam on the Oswego River. These new tools and warnings supplement the already existing system of warnings, which included signage and a Fishermen’s Alert System, among other features.

However, one safety feature in particular is causing a headache for residents and councilors alike – the sirens.

Fishing in the Oswego River has always been popular. However, there has been a decrease in the number of anglers in recent years.

Fishing in the Oswego River has always been popular. However, there has been a decrease in the number of anglers in recent years.

At Monday night’s meeting of the Administrative Services Committee, Councilor Mike Todd said it time for the city to act on the citizens’ complaints about the warning sirens used by Brookfield to alert anglers to rising water in the Oswego River.

“It’s about time someone actually makes a decision on this. Evidently, this weekend, they were out there with bullhorns getting people out of the river, fishing where they were legally allowed to fish, because they didn’t want them in there,” he said Monday night.

He proposed a resolution removing the authorization the city granted the power company a few years ago to post the entire section of river and instruct the police department to enforce the noise ordinance (regarding the sirens).

“Maybe that will force (Brookfield) to do something to negotiate this. I’d like to see that come forward as a resolution for Monday night (at the full council),” he said. “Anyone else tired of dealing with this?”

The city has been trying to work out a resolution to this issue for several years now, council vice president Eric VanBuren agreed.

Brookfield is regulated by the FERC, the Federal Energy Regulation Commission. It’s a federal agency. Their sirens operate under a separate jurisdiction from local and state municipal law, he pointed out.

“So, we can’t actually enforce the noise limit … we can’t hit them with a duration limit or send our police down there to fine or ticket the company or a representative of that company for the sirens,” VanBuren said. “That’s our first hurdle and probably the hardest one to overcome. The FERC has to give them the recommendations for what they can operate within.”

He and the mayor spent a lot of time trying to facilitate a meeting with Brookfield and then they found out that FERC was really who they needed to talk to, he added.

They finally met with a FERC representative and he re-wrote recommendations for what Brookfield should be doing with the sirens.

Brookfield has to comply with that, he said, but added, “We can’t make them move any faster than FERC is going to allow them (to move). If FERC says they can take a year and a half to get a sound study done, they can take a year and a half to get sound study done.”

“My argument would be that, A – we could take away their permission to enforce any part of that river out by removing the posted signs; and two, sometimes you move quicker because everybody in this room is pretty interested in federal and state government moving in such an expeditious way, they usually listen to their constituents about what they want – so maybe if you put them in court, maybe if you failed to respond to anything they needed like trespassing, maybe it would be in their better interest to move a little quicker,” Todd said. “Maybe we should stop trying to bend over backwards and discuss this with them and just do something right, wrong or indifferent and then let it fight out, that’s what we got attorneys for. And, maybe we can make them move quicker.”

VanBuren said he agreed with Todd in that Brookfield’s actions have had a negative impact on the local fishing and those businesses that cater to fishermen.

“They have certainly been overstepping their bounds as to what they are policing down there,” VanBuren added.

He said he’s all for doing whatever he can to rejuvenate the river fishing; but regardless of what the council does it won’t bring Brookfield to the table any faster about the sirens.

“I am more than happy and supportive of changing how they are in charge of that portion of the river. But, just know that the siren aspect of it, may not be affected the way we want it to,” VanBuren said.

“We’re all sick and tired of waking up at 6:30 or 7 o’clock in the morning and hearing the ‘whoop’ coming from the river, the sirens, starting in the morning right through when it gets dark. It can come at any time,” council president Ron Kaplewicz said. “And, usually when it does happen, I’ll get a phone call or two from folks who live along the river.”

One woman in particular reminds the councilor that she has tenants that work at Novelis and at the nuclear plants, working 12-hour shifts, and they can’t get any rest because of the sirens going off at all hours, Kaplewicz continued.

It was about three years ago that the council passed a resolution granting Brookfield authorization to post city property (along the river) and provide enforcement pursuant to the guidelines at that time, which came about after discussions on how to improve safety in the area following the drowning deaths of two fishermen in the fall of 2010, he pointed out.

“Personally, I think we’ve taken this way too far,” he said. “I understand the liability issue, I’m sure that’s what Brookfield is looking at. The city also has to look at that. The consequences have been severe on many businesses. We have shot ourselves in the foot with respect to the fishery and tourism industry that goes along with it.”

In the previous resolution, he said there was an option for the city to opt out.

“This is simple. We bring it forward next Monday. We put if for a resolution and we take it off. Everybody’s in favor of that,” Todd said. “I’ll make a motion to do it now. Stop talking about it. We’ve talked about it for three years. You can talk this thing to death. Just do it. Take it away from them and see where it goes.”

The committee unanimously approved sending the matter to the full council for consideration next week.

8 Responses “Oswego Council Looks To Quiet River Sirens”

  1. Cindy Mulcahey
    September 16, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Let me get this straight, take away something that would benefit the fisher men and woman,to keep peace in the city. What’s next silence the fire trucks and so on! It’s not about safety anymore it’s all about me my self and I ! Move to the country !

  2. Steve Yablonski
    September 16, 2014 at 1:50 pm

    They aren’t trying to take it away, just tone it down. They are still concerned about safety and it says as much in the teaser below the headline: The Common Council is searching for a way to give residents some relief without compromising safety of the fishermen As for move to the country — forget about it. I live out in Scriba and still get woke up by the sirens If it’s supposed to warn the fishermen, Do I have to hear it outside the city limits?

  3. Cindy Mulcahey
    September 16, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    Sorry I read the article and as I was reading I wasn’t really paying attention to what I was reading. I understand that they are trying to figure out a way so everyone is happy in the end. I am sure they do flash signal lights before the loud siren goes off. Good luck to us all. Cindy Mulcahey

  4. Sharon D
    September 16, 2014 at 7:29 pm

    I live in the city and the noise dose not bother me . If it was not for the siren how many more people would have been washed down the river

  5. james toy
    September 17, 2014 at 12:45 pm

    As for the siren that is only half the battle….Brookefield reps. that work on the wall are and continue to promote unsafe behavior….telling fishermen outside the red zones to exit the water or they will not the guys who fish in the red zones back in the water. Inciting ritious behavior…fights, throwning rocks at the fishermen outside the red zone so they can go back fishing and when these things happen they do nothing to stop it and in some cases promote it. the more havic they cause the better. It is time that we the citizens stand up and say no more. As for the deaths of 2 fishermen in 2010, they were found guilty and liable for their deaths by there actions. Grown men make descissions and have to live with the result, I was a victim of this sort of primevil behavior, just last weekend.

  6. Steve b
    September 18, 2014 at 6:56 am

    As a fishing guide ppl should be aware of what’s going on around them. Also as a guide brookfield is the main reason why it’s hard for a guy like my self to do any guided trips in that river. Get rid of the sirens keep the light ppl need to be more cautious on that river anyways, but it’s hard for the average guy to leave fish behind. Yes the sirens are annoying but what’s more annoying is having posted property on a PUBLIC river. Lose the sirens keep the lights be more cautious to what going on and ppl will enjoy them selves while wading in the river.

  7. robert coad
    September 18, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    SIMPLE ANSWER
    JUST REDUCE THE VOLUME IT DOESN’T NEED TO BE HEARD AT THE LIGHT HOUSE (I,VE BEEN THERE AND HEARD IT)
    ANNOUNCE IT ONE TIME NOT SEVEN TIMES ,THAT IS TWENTY EIGHT WOOPS EACH ALERT DRIVES ME NUTS. NOT TO MENTION WEDNESDAY THEY ALERTED ONE HOUR SOLID WITHOUT STOPPING THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO P–S US OFF!!!!!

  8. ken trego
    September 27, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    I am all for safety ,but the siren is very annoying. we fish the river every yr and drive 6 hrs to get there . how can they post public property ? I have witnessed the workers with the bull horn and telling us to exit and no fishing until the river is empty. several locals told us we do not need to leave the river .pissed off from Pennsylvania. counsel please act soon and save of the best fishing I have had the pleasure to do .

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